BATTLE OF THICK BOYS | NEW BALANCE MORE v4 VS HOKA BONDI 8
Summary
TLDRIn this comparison video, Alex reviews two top maximalist running shoes: the New Balance Fresh Foam More V4 and the Hoka Bondi 8. Both boast thick midsoles for deep cushioning, ideal for runners seeking leg-saving comfort. With a close weight of 360-350 grams and a 4mm drop, they cater to various foot types. The Bondi offers plush uppers and a more pronounced heel, while the More V4 provides a softer, more cushioned ride. Both are expected to last over 700 miles, with the More V4 being slightly more affordable. Viewers are encouraged to consider their running style and preferences when choosing between these two cushioned options.
Takeaways
- 👟 The video compares two maximally cushioned running shoes: the New Balance Fresh Foam More V4 and the Hoka Bondi 8.
- 🔍 Both shoes feature thick midsoles and are aimed at runners seeking extra cushioning and leg protection.
- 📦 The shoes were not sent by the same retailer, with the New Balance available at Running Warehouse in the US and the Hoka at Pro Direct Running in the UK.
- 📐 The weight and stack height of the shoes are very similar, with the Bondi having a slightly higher heel stack height but both having a 4mm drop.
- 📏 The More V4 is slightly wider than the Bondi, and both have wide platforms, which are good for those with wide feet.
- 💰 The price point for the More V4 is 160 Euros/150 dollars, and for the Bondi 8 it's 170 Euros/165 dollars, with the More V4 being slightly more competitive.
- 👕 The Bondi's upper is described as plush, especially the tongue, which feels like a pillow, while the More V4's tongue is preferred by the reviewer for being less plush.
- 👣 Both shoes have removable insoles, which is beneficial for those who use orthotics.
- 👣 The Bondi's upper in the forefoot is preferred for its thinner and more pliable mesh, which is breathable and pleasant against the feet.
- 🏃 The More V4 feels softer and more cushioned, especially for heel-to-midfoot strikers, while the Bondi has more roll and is better for heel strikers.
- 👎 The Bondi's outsole was a disappointment on greasy and wet pavements, feeling less secure, while the More V4's outsole performance was not detailed.
- 💡 The Bondi X, a plated version of the Bondi, is mentioned as a potentially better value option compared to the Bondi 8.
Q & A
What is the main focus of the video?
-The video focuses on comparing two maximally cushioned running shoes: the New Balance Fresh Foam More V4 and the Hoka Bondi 8.
Who is the presenter of the video?
-The presenter of the video is Alex.
What are the key features of the shoes being compared in the video?
-The key features being compared are the cushioning, upper design, midsole geometry, weight, stack height, and price point of the two shoes.
What is the stack height in the heel of the Hoka Bondi 8?
-The stack height in the heel of the Hoka Bondi 8 is 35 millimeters.
How does the weight of the New Balance Fresh Foam More V4 compare to the Hoka Bondi 8?
-The New Balance Fresh Foam More V4 weighs 360 grams, which is very close to the 350 grams of the Hoka Bondi 8.
What is the price point for the New Balance Fresh Foam More V4?
-The price point for the New Balance Fresh Foam More V4 is 160 Euros or 150 dollars.
What is special about the tongue of the Hoka Bondi 8 according to the video?
-The tongue of the Hoka Bondi 8 is described as very plush, like a pillow on top of your feet, offering inherent comfort.
What is the difference in the cushioning feel between the two shoes?
-The New Balance Fresh Foam More V4 feels a bit softer due to more compression with the foam, especially for heel to midfoot strikers.
How do the shoes perform for different types of runners?
-The shoes adapt well to different running styles, especially at lower paces and for daily training. The Bondi may work better for cadence runners, while the More V4 might be better for stride runners.
What is the durability expectation for these shoes?
-Both shoes are expected to last around 700 miles or 300 to 400 miles, with the Hoka Bondi 8 potentially having a slight edge in durability.
What is the presenter's opinion on the outsole of the Hoka Bondi 8?
-The presenter was a bit disappointed with the outsole of the Hoka Bondi 8, noting it felt a little insecure on greasy roads and wet pavements.
Outlines
👟 Maximal Cushioning Shoe Comparison
In this video, Alex compares two maximally cushioned running shoes: the New Balance Fresh Foam More V4 and the Hoka Bondi 8. Both shoes are known for their thick midsoles and are ideal for runners seeking extra cushioning and leg protection. The video provides a detailed comparison of their weight, stack height, width, and price, highlighting the slight differences in comfort and performance. The New Balance More V4 is positioned as a more competitively priced option, with both shoes offering plush uppers and removable insoles for customization. The summary also touches on the suitability of each shoe for different types of runners, including those with wide feet, and their expected durability.
🏃♂️ Runner's Experience with Maximal Cushioning
This paragraph delves into the personal experience of running in the two maximal cushioning shoes. It discusses the suitability of each shoe for different running styles, such as midfoot and forward strikers, and the impact of cadence on the runner's experience with the shoes. The Hoka Bondi is noted for its plushness and midsole roll, which may be advantageous for heel strikers, while the New Balance More V4 is praised for its softer cushioning, especially for heel-to-midfoot strikers. The paragraph also addresses the shoes' adaptability to various running styles and paces, as well as their performance on different surfaces. The outsole of the Bondi is criticized for its performance on wet and greasy surfaces, and a comparison is made regarding the expected durability of both shoes, suggesting that the More V4 may have a slightly shorter lifespan due to thinner outsole coverage.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Maximized shoes
💡New Balance Fresh Foam more V4
💡Hoka Bondi 8
💡Cushioning
💡Stack height
💡Drop
💡Geometry score
💡Price point
💡Upper
💡Outsole
💡Durability
Highlights
Comparison between New Balance Fresh Foam More V4 and Hoka Bondi 8, two maximally cushioned running shoes.
Both shoes have thick midsoles designed for runners seeking extra cushioning and leg protection.
The shoes were not sent by the same retailer, with links to Running Warehouse in the US and Pro Direct Running in the UK provided in the description.
Weight comparison: 360 grams for Hoka Bondi 8 and 350 grams for New Balance More V4.
Stack height in the heel is 33 millimeters for Bondi 8 and 35 millimeters for More V4, with a 4-millimeter drop on both.
The More V4 is slightly wider than the Bondi 8, with both offering wide platforms for a comfortable fit.
EVA base on Bondi 8 is ranked softer at 36.1 on the geometer scale compared to More V4 at 34.3.
Price comparison: 160 Euros/150 dollars for More V4 and 170 Euros/165 dollars for Bondi 8, with More V4 being more competitive.
Bondi 8 has a plush upper with a comfortable tongue that feels like a pillow.
The More V4's tongue is preferred for those who do not like very plush tongues.
Both shoes have removable insoles, suitable for those who need to use their own orthotics.
The Bondi 8's forefoot upper is thinner and more pliable, offering breathability and comfort.
More V4 offers a softer and more cushioned ride, especially for heel-to-midfoot strikers.
For midfoot and forefoot strikers, the cushioning of both shoes feels similar.
Cadence runners may find the Bondi 8 more suitable due to its responsiveness in the forefoot.
The Bondi 8's outsole may be more durable than the More V4's, which has thinner outsole coverage.
Both shoes are expected to have good durability, lasting around 700 miles or more.
The Bondi 8's price point is considered slightly high compared to its value, especially when compared to the Bondi X.
The More V4 is positioned better in terms of price in the maximal category.
Transcripts
we have two maximized shoes here on the
channel today in this comparison video
which one is better for you if you are
looking at those monster shoes for your
running let's find out
hey everyone and welcome back on the
channel my name is Alex in today's video
we're comparing two maximize shoes the
New Balance Fresh Foam more V4 and the
Hoka Bondi 8. the two shoes are really
those you know super maximally super
cushioned shoes as you can see the two
of them have those like super you know
thick midsoles you know the shoes that
you're looking at if you want to save
your legs if you want to have that extra
bit of cushion that deep cushion that's
the type of shoes you're looking at so
this battle is really for you if you are
looking at these two shoes they were not
sent by the same retailer to us running
Warehouse in the US Link in the
description and pro direct running in
the UK but shipping globally so also
Link in the description go check them
out thanks a lot because it helps us if
you purchase with those links wait 360
grams 350 grams very close stack height
in the heel 33 millimeters 35
millimeters I know the Bondi looks a bit
more but
it has some quite high side walls and
that is a bit the the reason why it
looks higher than it is only only 33
four millimeters drop on the two so very
similar and that's also why the
comparison is is interesting here with
if you want to see the specific numbers
for the fourth forfeit width mid foot
width and heel width just go on the
website the shoe super tool the two are
really really really wide platforms as
you can see the more V4 is slightly
wider than the Bondi but the two are
like top of the of the range in terms of
which geometry score we're looking at
um it's not profly but the Eva base
meets on the Bondi is ranked at 36.1 on
the geometer scale and the one on the
more V4 is ranked at 34.3 so slightly
softer and indeed it feels a bit softer
price point we're looking at 160 Euros
150 dollars for more and 170 Euros 165
dollars for the Bondi eight similar
price point the more is a bit it's a bit
more competitive
um
so what's good what's not and so on
let's look at the uppers very quickly
here I would say that um the Bondi is
very
um is very plush and it has a bit more
of that inherent Comfort especially the
tongue is very very plush very
um very cushy very it feels like a
pillow on top of your of your feet and
it's very nice a bit less so on the on
the more I do prefer the tongue of the
more because I don't like very very
plush tongs but I think if you're
looking at that maximized experience you
may be interested in something like the
tongue of the of the Bondi the heel is
slightly pliable on the Bondi a bit more
so on the on the more two insoles are
removable if you want to put your own
Orthotics and the shoes are maybe not
yet but should be available in wide
sizes uh the two of them so if you have
wide fits these are two good options if
you're looking again at those maximize
shoes in the forefoot I prefer the bond
dice upper which is a bit thinner and
that's um Jacquard type of mesh is let's
say more pliable but at the same time it
is structured so it doesn't collapse on
top of your feet it's it's a nice upper
on the more there's nothing wrong about
it I think the the hooker one is
slightly more breathable slightly
thinner slightly more pleasant against
your feet if that makes sense so let's
give it here to the to the Bondi but the
two uppers are let's say similar if you
if you want some plushness and I think
you may want some blushness if you're
looking at these uh the shoes in this
category the Bondi is a bit more plush
in terms of Upper midsole and ride four
millimeters on the two shoes so you get
that lower drop type of experience with
the two the same drop that you had on
the more V3 correct me if I'm wrong or
just check the shoe super 2 if you want
to compare the more V4 and the more V3
but four millimeters it works really
well the four millimeters if you are
um a meter forward striker of course
naturally if you are not and you are
more of a heel midfoot Striker it works
well but better on the Bondi because it
has a bit of that a bit more role and
you can really take advantage of that
heel strike and move forward the more
doesn't have that but it has something
else which the Bondi doesn't have the
plushness of the of the landing if you
are a heel to meet with Striker so roll
from the heel towards the mid foot and
more of that you know sinking in
plushness here on the on the more
overall the the ride of the more is a
bit softer a bit it feels more cushioned
the two shoots are super cushioned but
it feels a bit more cushioned because
you have more compression with the foam
here on the more you have a bit more
cushion for sure especially if you are a
heel to midfoot Striker if you are more
of that Midfield football Striker it
doesn't feel
that cushions it feels similar to the
Bondi because the Bondi has some distant
cushion in the forefoot but if you are
mid foot forward Striker the two shoes
will will arrive quite similarly in
terms of cushion now if you are you know
more of that Cadence Runner increasing
your Cadence I think again the Bondi may
work a bit better because of the
clunkiness I would experience being a
Cadence Runner with this shoe I'm not
I'm a stride Runner and so I think the
more Works a bit better for me here
because I can you know use more of that
stomping type of um of a running style
here with the more compared to the Bondi
that doesn't quite respond as well to my
stomping running stomping you know
pushing on the ground here in the
forefoot it doesn't react quite as well
as the more but the two shoes are are
um
working well
you know independently of your food
strike I think they're the type of shoes
that can adapt quite well to you and
your running style especially at those
lower Paces daily training bases where
um you will find yourself at ease with
the two if you are looking for that
specific right and geometry if you are
looking for a bit more plushness a bit
more you know compression in the foam
that's here if you want the blushes in
the upper and more of the role here in
the in the midsole geometry that's more
here with the Bandai Outsource nothing
to write home about I was a bit
disappointed with the outsole of the
Bondi I must say I didn't experience
them more in similar conditions to the
Bondi the Bondi on some greasy roads and
you know wets Pavements felt a little
insecure
um surprisingly so you know nothing to
to write home about I think the
durability may be a bit better on the
Bondi that being said compared to the
more which has a slightly thinner
outsole coverage I think we'll be a
little less durable but the two shoes
will go past six seven eight hundred
kilometers 700 I think is a good place
for the two so around you know 300 miles
I think three to four hundred miles for
the two shoes good durability price
point I think is it is a touch high for
the Bandai for what you are getting
especially compared to the Bondi X which
is like the plated version of the Bondi
the difference is not that that big it's
a better you know positioning in terms
of price for the more in the maximize
category so again something you may want
to consider if you are looking at the
two shoes if you have questions about
these two shoes let me know in the
comments I will answer to all of you as
soon as I can I'm trying to do that all
the time but sometimes I take a bit more
time so forgive me if you don't have the
answer straight away but you will have
one eventually at some point enjoy
around today guys enjoy your ride and go
beyond your limits I'll see you in the
next one bye
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